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16 ALDO CICCOLINI

K.457 and 475 became part of your repertoire at a later date. Had you

heard them in concert before, and if so, what do you remember about

them? Did any great pianist of the past make a particular impression

on you?

A.C.

: I was highly impressed by Walter Gieseking. He was a colorist, a remarkable

performer of Debussy and Ravel, but also a wonderful classical pianist. He played

the first movement of the

Sonata in CMinor

with a certain brutality, which is exactly

what the music needed. These are things which, when you’re young, you can hear,

but which you’re afraid to confront because“of the fear of…”.

You waited a long time before playing the

Sonata

and the

Fantasy

,

although you had already performed some of Beethoven’s intimidating

sonatas…

A.C.

: I also waited a long time before performing the Beethoven sonata cycle. In

fact, it was in Palermo on my 70

th

birthday that I first played the

Sonata Op.106

in

public.

Is this your way of saying that certain pianists explore this repertoire

too soon?

A.C.

: I don’t pretend togive anyone lessons. I canonly regret that a certainaesthetic

leads certain pianists to exaggerate the tempos. Furtwängler said that a slow

movement shouldn’t be so slow that it becomes diluted, and a fast movement,

even a

presto

, should not be played so quickly that it becomes incomprehensible.

Many pianists think that if they play more slowly, as Claudio Arrau did, it’s because

it’s easier. They haven’t understood yet that it is

terribly

difficult to playmore slowly,

and even more to play slowly, because each note must have its

raison d’être

.